Ramsgate and the Dover Patrol

This post has been updated with information from contributors:

In late July 1914, with war looming, the fledgling Dover Patrol was born which, from its early beginnings as a modest and poorly equipped command, became one of the most important Royal Navy commands of the First World War. The Dover Patrol assembled cruisers, monitors, destroyers, armed trawlers and drifters, paddle mine-sweepers, tugs, armed yachts, motor launches and coastal motor boats, submarines, seaplanes, aeroplanes and airships. With these resources it performed several duties simultaneously in the Southern North Sea and the Dover Straits: carrying out anti-submarine patrols; escorting merchantmen, hospital and troop ships; laying sea-mines and even constructing mine barrages; sweeping up German mines; bombarding German military positions on the Belgian coast; and sinking the ever present U-boats.



Little Java (pictured above) was a Thames Steam Tug built in 1905 by Cochrane & Sons of Selby and owned by W.Watkins Ltd. In 1915 she was transferred to Ramsgate and operated under Royal Naval Command as H.M.S. Carcass in the Dover Patrol’s Downs Boarding Flotilla. Java was involved in a number of ship rescue incidents, including one in connection with the destroyer H.M.S. Cossack. She was also involved in towing at least two other ships out of dangerous minefields.


Feb 1915 - Adapted fishing vessels based at Ramsgate were "Arcady", "lord Charles Beresford", "Paramount", "Loyal Star", "Acceptable", "Try Again", "Campanula", "Lord Cromer", "Rooke", "Majesty", "Frons Olivae", "Dewey", "Joe Chamberlain", "City of Glasgow", "Buckler", "Lord Claud Hamilton", " City of Liverpool", "Reaper" and "City of Edinburgh"

15th March 1915 - ten additional Drifters arrive: - "Redwald", "Ocean Hope", "John Lincoln", "Silver Line", "Achievable", "Ocean Pilot", "Ocean Crest", "Feasible", "Present Help" and "R.R.S".

On the 28th of November 1917 vessels of the Ramsgate Armed Drifter Squadron (above) engaged a German submarine which was caught recharging its batteries. The Drifters drove the submarine onto the Goodwin Sands where it was wrecked. It's thought that the tug Java was involved in salvaging the submarine's gun which was displayed at Nelson Crescent until the 1960's.

24th November 1917 - 6.30am approx one and one half miles N.E. of Gull Light Vessel, enemy submarine observed by sweepers bound north. "Paramount", "Majesty" and "Present Help" attacked. Later "Feasible", "Acceptable" and "Lord Claud Hamilton" assisted. Enemy fire caused slight damage to Present Help. The sub U.48 eventually blew up, 19 survivors were made prisoners. No casualties on the Drifters and the Admiralty paid awards totalling £31,000. 3 skippers received the D.S.C., 5 ratings the D.S.M. The Vice Admiral at Dover wrote; - " I wish to express my satisfaction at the gallant way in which the Drifters named attacked this submarine armed with a 4" gun"

Karl Edeling Commander of U.48
Born 25 Apr 1886
Died 24 Nov 1917 Goodwind Sands
 
30th January 1918 - Drifters under Lt. Commander Williams salved the periscope of U.48. The submarine dissapeared in the sands.

The notice reads: 88mm gun salved from German submarine which vessel was engaged on the morning of Nov 28th 1917 by vessels of the Ramsgate Armed Drifter Squadron, driven on the Goodwin Sands and wrecked



The 1920 video clip above (click on it to play) is of captured German submarine Deutchland being towed into Ramsgate and it's thought that the tug at the rear is Java. Java was also operating out of Ramsgate during World War 2 and was the first tug to be involved in the Dunkirk evacuation. She was sold for scrap in May 1965

Does anyone have more information on the Dover Patrol's operations out of Ramsgate? My grandfather served on Java and was awarded the British War Medal and Victory Medal, but I've been unable to find where service records for the Dover Patrol are held.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

24th November 1917.
6.30am approx one and one half miles N.E. of Gull Light Vessel, enemy submarine observed by sweepers bound north. "Paramount", "Majesty" and "Present Help" attacked. Later "Feasible", "Acceptable" and "Lord Claud Hamilton" assisted. Enemy fire caused slight damage to Present Help. The sub U.48 eventually blew up, 19 survivors were made prisoners. No casualties on the Drifters and the Admiralty paid awards totalling £31,000. 3 skippers received the D.S.C., 5 ratings the D.S.M. The Vice Admiral at Dover wrote; - " I wish to express my satisfaction at the gallant way in which the Drifters named attacked this submarine armed with a 4" gun"

Anonymous said...

30th January 1918

Drifters under Lt. Commander Williams salved the periscope of U.48. The submarine dissapeared in the sands.

Anonymous said...

Picture of "Rose" brake in your collection was taken outside Minster Church.

Anonymous said...

Cottages captioned Honeysuckle are in fact Herson Road Cottages a Mrs Byng being one of the last residents before demolition.

Anonymous said...

"Hereson Road"

Anonymous said...

Feb 1915
Adapted fishing vessels based at Ramsgate were "Arcady", "lord Charles Beresford", "Paramount", "Loyal Star", "Acceptable", "Try Again", "Campanula", "Lord Cromer", "Rooke", "Majesty", "Frons Olivae", "Dewey", "Joe Chamberlain", "City of Glasgow", "Buckler", "Lord Claud Hamilton", " City of Liverpool", "Reaper" and "City of Edinburgh"

15th March 1915 ten additional Drifters arrive: - "Redwald", "Ocean Hope", "John Lincoln", "Silver Line", "Achievable", "Ocean Pilot", "Ocean Crest", "Feasible", "Present Help" and "R.R.S".

Anonymous said...

Frons Olivae was blown up by a german mine on 12th October 1915 near Elbow Buoy. Lt. T.R. Rogers R.N.R. Skipper and 9 men were lost, 2 survivors found. So this dates your photo of drifters in Ramsgate Harbour to 1915!

Anonymous said...

Karl Edeling Commander of U.48

Born 25 Apr 1886
Died 24 Nov 1917 Goodwind Sands

Anonymous said...

Andrew's Fishmonger

20 Addington Street, Ramsgate.

Phil said...

Many thanks Anonymous for the info. I've updated the post and pictures to include your comments.

On a personal note, I would like to find out which Naval branch the Dover Patrol served under as this may help find my Grandfather's service record.

Anonymous said...

Photo - Couvent de la Providence.

Sisters of Providence (Home for females) 43-45 Crescent Road, Ramsgate.

Anonymous said...

H.C. Child photo - 12 King Street

Anonymous said...

Write to: -

Naval Pay and Pensions
(Accounts)
M.O.D. Centurion Building
Grange Road
Gosport
Hampshire
PO13 9XA

'You need his service number' ask them very nicely give all information you can and they should be able to help. There is a cost if you are not Next of Kin.

Phil said...

Many thanks for your information and help Anonymous. I'll write to the Navy Pay & Pensions people on behalf of my aunt who is next of kin, and is the daughter-in-law of our former Top Hat Mayor, A.B.C. Kempe.